Kathy Bates hasn鈥檛 told friends about her new series, 鈥淢atlock.鈥 She鈥檚 too afraid she鈥檒l spoil the surprises.
鈥淭he complexity of the role and the writing? I pinch myself every day,鈥 she says. 鈥淎 woman my age would never have such a role.鈥
In the new CBS drama, she plays a lawyer who goes back to work after a period away from the courtroom. Because clients, colleagues and others see past her, she鈥檚 able to get into places without being noticed. That helps her win cases and change opinions.
While it shares a title with an old Andy Griffith series, this isn鈥檛 the same 鈥淢atlock.鈥
鈥淲hen I wrote this originally, I had a guiding principle,鈥 says executive producer Jennie Snyder Urman. 鈥淚 wanted to write about how older women are overlooked in society, and I gave myself a challenge. I wanted our heroine to be constantly telling the audience that she鈥檚 being underestimated and then I wanted the audience to enjoy watching her take advantage of that underestimation.鈥
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Dual purpose
While Bates鈥 Madeline Matlock maneuvers the minefields of a prestigious New York law firm, she also has another motive that guides her. Urman鈥檚 鈥渟tory within a story鈥 should surprise viewers and prompt the reaction Bates offered when she read it.
鈥淲hen this came along, how could I say no?鈥 the Oscar-winner says. 鈥淚 actually had one foot out of the door. I was doing smaller roles in films, and I thought I was going into semi-retirement. But this was just too exciting.鈥
Like others who have been in great pilots, Bates wondered if the second script would be 鈥渋n a nosedive,鈥 but found it was better than the first episode.
鈥淪o now I have to put in my order for a Swarovski walker," she says. 鈥淚鈥檝e got a lot of lines to learn, and it鈥檚 been hard. But I鈥檝e been taking really good care of myself and lost what you could refer to as a Romanian gymnast. I don鈥檛 think I could have done this without taking care of myself 鈥 it鈥檚 a tough schedule.鈥
Because she鈥檚 the show鈥檚 title character, the 76-year-old Bates is in a lot of scenes. Matty Matlock twists and turns, too, presenting one image at work and another at home.
鈥淚f it was just a procedural every week, I think it would get boring but there鈥檚 so much going on,鈥 Bates says.
The job, she adds, is life and death for Matlock聽鈥 鈥渙n a lot of levels. She has a lot of courage to do what she鈥檚 doing, so we鈥檒l see.鈥
One door closes
In 2011, Bates played another lawyer on the NBC series, 鈥淗arry鈥檚 Law," that聽 landed her two primetime Emmy nominations. The show was canceled after two seasons, however, and in 2012, Bates was diagnosed with breast cancer. 鈥淚 thought it was all over,鈥 she says.
Then, Ryan Murphy gave her a job on 鈥淎merican Horror Story鈥 in 2013, and her career once again flourished. Today, with two films in 2023 and three in 2024 to her credit, she鈥檚 busier than ever.
She likens the work to 鈥渃reating a little bead on a necklace. You play each scene, and you have to have faith," Bates says. "When you鈥檙e making television or film, you鈥檙e breaking everything up, so we really have to be careful about where we are in the show and what鈥檚 happened and where we are in this character development. It all shifts and changes.鈥
When he looks at Bates鈥 script, co-star David Del Rio marvels. 鈥淭he notes are from top to bottom,鈥 he says. 鈥淚t鈥檚 absolutely incredible to watch.鈥
Bates says the notations are necessities: 鈥淲e go back and forth from home to office; I have to have an accent, then no accent, then accent 鈥 so it鈥檚 trying to stay on top of all that鈥ut it鈥檚 a lot of fun.鈥
Keeping secrets
Pulling back the curtain, she says, was something she never wanted to do. When she started in the film business more than 30 years ago, 鈥淚 wanted to think of the actors only as the characters," she says. "I never wanted to see them playing.鈥
Now, she鈥檚 too busy to worry about how others might see her Matlock.
鈥淚 just feel really lucky,鈥 Bates says with a smile. 鈥淚 get to play all those levels with everything I鈥檝e learned in the last 50 years. I just love being able to play all those different notes.鈥